Our team and volunteers are working at St John the Baptist to make the church burial ground a safe and peaceful place to remember the departed. This post has answers to questions which are cropping up a lot and updates.
A public meeting was held At All Saints on the 18th April at 7.30pm to allow an exchange of views between interested parties on the changes underway at the churchyard burial ground of St John the Baptist, North Baddesley and to provide information on the regulations related to the management of this sort of burial ground.
We are genuinely sorry for any feelings of hurt and pain which these necessary works may be causing. Please contact us using fill out the form below which will record your connection with the burial ground. This will allow us to keep in touch with what is happening on the burial ground. Scroll down for FAQ's
Make contact and tell us details of your connection to the burial site at St John the Baptist
Here is a link to a facebook post we've put up
Frequently asked questions
We welcome visitors to the churchyard. We want it to be a place for you to be able to remember your relatives in peace. In recognition that it can be wet and windy we have worked to get the church building open during the week as a place for reflection.
We bury and inter ashes without fear or favour and without regard to belief. We are glad to do so. We only ask you tread softly and with recognition your friend or relative lies in the churchyards of living places of worship and active Christian communities.
Please read this post first for details. In general though we want you to be able to take comfort in visiting their loved ones graves while preserving the churchyard as a peaceful and safe place.
- Any natural flowers are fine, but they must be unwrapped
- Good quality silk flowers are ok, but will be removed when faded
- Seasonal wreaths are fine but only for the period in question
These are some things which are not allowed:
- not leaving any toy, object, ribbon, windmill noisemaker or other thing however this is made. This includes photographs and items with photographs on
- leaving no plastic or wire around graves including on graves
- keeping everything you leave within the boundaries of grave or ledger stone
- Not planting things, paving or curbing areas without consulting us. What you are asking for may be ok, but you may need ‘planning permission’ from the central church
- Maintaining the character of the burial site
You can read the full church regulations here:
Many local burial grounds, including those next to churches or apparently connected to churches are actually civic sites managed by councils which will have different rules. For example Hollybrook Cemetery is a civc burial ground managed by Southampton City Council and Botley Road Cemetery is managed by Test Valley Council. These councils set rules for certain matters just as the Diocese of Winchester (the regional church) does for the church burial grounds we care for. Church burial grounds in the local area will operate under the same regulations. Regulations for churches in other parts of the country - e.g. Somerset, Dorset, Sussex are likely to be a little different.
The rules are longstanding. In general these rules date to 2011. The objective is to keep burial grounds safe for visitors, volunteers, and staff. St John like many church buildings is a listed site and it is also important to help keep burial grounds in character with their church buildings. We are also conscious of our responsibility to the natural world and some parts of the regulations are aimed at preventing harm to animals or birds who might eat, or get entrapped in things like foil balloons or cellophane wraps.
These wooden crosses and stakes are temporary memorials. They are allowed until a permanent memorial stone or tablet has been put up. After this time many families take them home as a keepsake.
If the burial or interment you are connected to is recent and a memorial stone has not yet been raised temporary markers have not been moved. Equally where a memorial stone has been removed for alteration and a temporary marker is in place this has not been moved.
There’s quite a lot of legal bits around this, but essentially relatives receive permission to put up a memorial. You don’t own the plot.
The fees you pay to the church are split. The local church keeps very roughly half, although it depends on exactly what items you are talking about. The rest is kept by the Diocese (the regional church). The full details are here.
If items are next to the ledger stone or memorial and were not included in the original permission for the memorial they cannot remain unless permission is put in obtained.
Items on the ledger stone or memorial can remain provided that they are not prohibited.
This is an interesting question. We would be interested in hearing more about it, but it doesn't relate to the churchyard regulations. The rules are the same for burials and interments of ashes